tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150854159364820604.post6178004754488746949..comments2023-05-10T16:38:37.925+01:00Comments on Stockwood Pete: Abraham's 'Empty Heads' Law.Pete Goodwinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07115478143080295370noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150854159364820604.post-82082163287511177382013-12-03T17:40:45.923+00:002013-12-03T17:40:45.923+00:00Helen Holland has spoken against the road at every...Helen Holland has spoken against the road at every meeting that I have attended and I have no doubt those were her genuine views. Should she have stood down is debatable. My Cllr, Richard Eddy has always championed the road, yet he took part! This "no preconceptions" really is a farce. The Tories and Lib/Dems were always going to vote in favour, the Green against. My only doubt was Labour and they were divided. What surprised me were the lack of intrusive questioning. I suppose if you know you are going to get the result you want, you can't even bother to go through the motions!paul bemmydownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150854159364820604.post-45558273102706055102013-12-03T10:51:15.012+00:002013-12-03T10:51:15.012+00:00It might depend whose side you're on!
But the...It might depend whose side you're on!<br /><br />But there's a convention (backed, I think, by precedents of decisions being challenged in law) that councillors should not vote on matters over which they've already expressed an opinion before weighing the evidence presented to a planning meeting.Stockwood Petehttp://stockwoodpete.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150854159364820604.post-88665668083247054802013-12-03T09:11:36.759+00:002013-12-03T09:11:36.759+00:00I can see how having a financial interest in one o...I can see how having a financial interest in one outcome or the other is a conflict. But when did having a detailed knowledge of the facts and an informed opinion render you conflicted. <br /><br />harryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150854159364820604.post-45555606104349322772013-12-02T18:54:02.829+00:002013-12-02T18:54:02.829+00:00Hallo Harry
It was Peter Abraham's claim to h...Hallo Harry<br /><br />It was Peter Abraham's claim to have got legal advice to allow him to chair the AVTG committee that inspired the title to this post – though it turned out to be far from the truth! <br /><br />I can see there'd be benefits to Helen Holland to avoid taking part, but not so much in the outcome as in avoiding the political charge that she'd voted against the Ring Road. My guess is that anyone who hasn't looked closely at it would just assume the LEP promises are true.Stockwood Petehttp://stockwoodpete.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150854159364820604.post-48564514144086945902013-12-02T09:23:27.018+00:002013-12-02T09:23:27.018+00:00Helen Holland got exactly the result she wanted. S...Helen Holland got exactly the result she wanted. She appeared to be against the SBL(for the purposes of her next election manifesto) whilst she enabled it to go ahead by pulling out. I expect she was pressured by the business lobby which is behind the SBL. But she had no reason or justification to stand down.<br /><br />On Twitter, she claims to have received legal advice to stand down. I expect this is false, but if it is true, then why did no one else apparently get this advice. It does not stack up, unless the council legal team is giving corrupt advice. <br /><br />harryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150854159364820604.post-6106355697496111742013-12-01T21:11:31.550+00:002013-12-01T21:11:31.550+00:00Thanks, btl. Yes, I read that piece, it's full...Thanks, btl. Yes, I read that piece, it's full of blinding common sense and asks the key questions that no-one's dared attempt to answer. I don't think they're really interested in South Bristol because there aren't any easy answers. SBL is, as several people have said, a route through, not a route to. I recollect asking a 'public forum' question at some point about what proportion of SBL trips would start or end in S.Bristol; the answer sugested it would be very small.<br /><br />I think it's a big over-simplification, too, to speak of the thriving north of Bristol and the moribund, unambitious south. They've both got elements of both - and I can't say I've ever had any envy of those who live in the north of the city, most of which looks like south Bristol with added traffic! Stockwood Petehttp://stockwoodpete.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150854159364820604.post-37013628187293615932013-12-01T12:11:12.582+00:002013-12-01T12:11:12.582+00:00Good post Pete.
Sadly, like so many things these ...Good post Pete.<br /><br />Sadly, like so many things these days though, it looked like a done deal. The webcast parade before the Council was only for show and going through the motions.<br /><br />What do you reckon to Tessa Coombes piece in B247 describing the "dual carriageways and car parks, no relationship between the buildings and no sense of place – low density, poor quality development, focused around cars. Is that the best we can hope for?"<br /><br />http://www.bristol247.com/2013/11/29/south-bristol-link-you-have-your-road-now-tell-us-how-jobs-will-be-created-21760/<br /><br />As Tim points out, sounds like almost any modern drive-in hutch development in England. Unfortunately, however, most of the public seem to go along with all this and the best they can do is moan about it only if ever it affects them directly.between the lineshttp://atween-the-lines.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.com